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Gina Cicotello
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10/16/2020 12:26 PM
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I have the Lee Valley curved squirrel-tail palm plane. It was given to me as a gift, specifically for use making Aleutian paddles. Simple tool but high quality, and perfect for the job carving out the concave curves on the blade.
Highly recommend.
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Ben Fuller
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10/16/2020 8:55 AM
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I think Lee Valley also sells cabinet scrapers. The curved ones are pretty effective and cn be ground to match any curve you want. If sharpened on a 45 degree they remove wood fast. You do need a real hardened burnisher as well.
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John Powers
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10/16/2020 8:45 AM
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Lee valley has two little squirrel tail planes. I have the flat one but the curved bottom one may be worth a look. Made in Canada to.
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John Huber
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10/15/2020 10:42 PM
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Like most curved tools, it is not as easy to sharpen. The steel is laminated and is great to sharpen. That being said, Japanese plane blades are really thick so there is alot of "bevel Edge" surface to act as a guide/rest while sharpening. The curved bed (fore and aft) lets you control the depth of your cut as well as plane on non flat surfaces. When I bought this plane, many years ago, it was a whimsical "that's a wierd plane" purchase. I don't use it often, but when you need it you will use the hell out of it as it is pretty versatile.
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Rita Romeu
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10/15/2020 8:47 AM
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That is a beautiful tool John, seems like it would make quick
work of it. It looks difficult to sharpen, though I would imagine
similar to a gouge but scaled up. I was wondering if there were a
western equivalent in a spokeshave, having an double
straight/curved (for outside radius) spokeshave in my collection,
I only found one picture reference. There are quite a few draw
knives for larger scaled hollowing,
I think that the result of my research into this is that the
crooked knife seems to be the most direct approach with the least
amount of 'tool' (efficiency?) required to accomplish the inside
curve. It requires a similar skill set than any of the other
approaches suggested. Seems to be originally formed with beaver's
teeth (the first experts;) by the Cree first nation, apparently
shifted to modified European knives when they became available. I
would be interested in how they would remove the temper then
reharden them after bending.
I enjoyed all the different approaches suggested, nice to see
such diversity in making.
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John Huber
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10/14/2020 11:47 PM
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I use a plane like this, it works wonders for hogging out maerial as well as carving ridges in paddles:
https://japanesetools.myshopify.com/collections/curved-sole-planes/products/copy-of-mini-ebony-plane-no8-inside-round-curved-r18
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Curtis Pack
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10/14/2020 8:56 PM
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Dan, I have had luck using a powered hand planner 3” wide. This allows forming the ridge in the center sort of a diamond shape and tapering to the flat blade. I rough cut the shape using a bandsaw, then plane to shape using an electric powered hand planner. I use a file and sandpaper to finish. Not traditional as using all hand tools but a bit quicker for time constraints. I use Tung oil as the finish. Several coats and it has a good grip but still easy to slide your hands into position and is easy to touch up. Curtis
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Rita Romeu
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10/14/2020 6:30 PM
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Hi Dan, the simplest and most efficient hand tool to do that is a
round wood rasp, like a file with pointies instead..
after, you can finish with sandpaper wrapped around a dowel.
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John Henry
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10/14/2020 11:27 AM
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I’m using a curved chisel and small hand planes
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Tony Schmitz
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10/14/2020 11:23 AM
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Dan Hunter
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10/14/2020 10:57 AM
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Does anyone have suggestions for hand or simple power tools to make an Aleut paddle? Or plans? I am stumped as to be able to make the ridge down the middle. Dan Hunter Sent from my iPhone
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Rita Romeu
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10/14/2020 8:32 AM
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That was my wood choice for carving paddles John, though
Greenland style, both for it's extreme lightness and as a
relatively soft wood. Excellent workabilty with well sharpened
tools. It was not dent resistant, not so much an issue, I
imagine reasonably strong, but as I mentioned before, I had used a
shear fiberglass epoxy coating. this was for additional strength
and durability rather than water resistance.
The best part of the wood was that I found it to be dead
straight and stable, from a 2x4 through all the cutting and
carving reductions (unusual in kiln dried wood). I got to pick
knot free from the selection, but that seemed to be easier than
what I find for typical 2 bys- knot free seems to be very resinous
in that selection.
I am a bit obsessive about sharp tools (I use a Japenese whet
stone trio), and it did seem to dull blades as fast as any hard
wood, I imagine there is a proportional silicone content.
I wonder what sort of minerals would harbor in driftwood in times
past and it's affect on cutting tools?
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John Henry
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10/13/2020 10:00 PM
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I did find it interesting that the Aleut Kayak Paddle "FNM#228 in the Finland National Museum, Helsinki", was made of western red cedar. Being rot resistant I can see it being a decent choice of wood for a paddle.
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John Henry
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10/13/2020 7:59 PM
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I'm interested in paddle design and making also
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Rita Romeu
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10/13/2020 6:27 PM
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I am always interested in seeing the results of a made paddle,
knowing why you picked the particular design, and anything
encountered that either helped or hindered completion. I have
made quite a few with stylistic shifts, mostly in the loom to fit
my hands and shoulder width, sticking as much to tradition in the
paddle area. I found that a slight spine in the transition area
between the loom and the paddle helped tremendously for indexing,
as an example.
I would be interested to hear your results, or anybody else with
their construction, gabriel
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John Henry
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10/13/2020 2:21 PM
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Glad it worked out for you. I have made a few now.
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Mark Loyacano
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10/13/2020 11:20 AM
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Quoted Text Get friendly with the pro staff, let them know what your looking for, but more important, why. I'm a carpenter so I deal with all the local yards, and when you show them a picture of a traditional paddle. they don't have an issue with letting you pick through the piles or pulling a nice piece for you when they see one. I have found some really nice stuff at the local lowes Thanks so much for this excellent advice. Shopping yesterday for something to start GP#2, I showed the yard manager a photo of #1. He just smiled saying he didn't know that a 2x4 could be made into a paddle - then told me to look all I want (...just don't leave a mess). Thanks again, Mark L.
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Gabriel Romeu
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9/16/2020 8:29 AM
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Well spoken Brian. Defining 'authentic' is the has always been
the purview of a power elite and has mostly served to value early
and ancient artifact in their own collected coffers (museum and
collections) while devaluing current production by the culture,
often defined to just souvenir status maintaining economic
positioning by said culture.
This is an important critique (postcolonial) that has been in
discussion and debate among museums for the past thirty years,
numerous books written, resulting in the deaccessing and return of
many objects to the original culture of the makers. There is also
a recontextualization by historians of many of the narratives of
the past.
I think it is important to realize, as we make these objects, as
we have the benefit of many advantages that access provides, and
our understanding of what is authentic is limited at best.
gabriel
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Brian Nystrom
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9/15/2020 9:11 PM
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The people who invented the kayak weren't dogmatic about it, they just used what they had available. When they got access to mast hoops, they adopted them for cockpit coamings. There are examples of kayaks built using all kinds of "non-traditional" materials. When dimensional lumber became available, they used that. Rifles replaced harpoons. They're pragmatic, which is pretty much a necessity in a subsistence culture.
Also, keep in mind that they probably weren't making paddles from wood as soft as western red cedar and yet they still reinforced tips and edges with bone, again, because it's what they had available. I wonder how many of them still do that today?
When you think about it, it's pretty bizarre for Americans to have a "purist" attitude toward Greenland kayaks and paddles, when Greenlanders don't. It's great that they're preserving their heritage and traditional skills, but WE have no right whatsoever to opine about what's traditional or not.
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<Unknown>
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9/15/2020 5:35 PM
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I use pure oil, nothing else.
If the people that invented kayaks didn’t need epoxy and varnish, I’m sure I don’t
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