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Hello Tony,

Great question! I don't think I've ever seen Rebel specs for recommended paddler size/weight, so I can't steer you towards any actual published material. But I can share my own anecdotal experience, having sat in several models of these kayaks and paddling one this summer.


I stand 6'0" and weigh 165 lbs depending on how much beer I've been drinking. I have a tall, slender build - think "swimmer." 32" waist and Mens size 11 US feet. In jeans, I buy a 34" inseam, but a 33" would be perfect, so relatively long limbs.


For me, sitting in the TOC is comfortable, but not roomy like a European/British touring kayak. For my size, the TOC would be my choice for longer day paddles and/or carrying lightweight gear for overnight trips (if I didn't also have a touring kayak). Compared to the Ilaga, the TOC has slightly higher decks, which allows for more bend in the knee, larger feet, and more internal stowage. The TOC is also 2" wider than the Ilaga. So for someone larger, or taller, or with bigger feet, or who wants a bit of comfort and the capacity to carry gear, the TOC a great choice. One note: compared to a European/British style touring kayak, it's still a low volume kayak -- narrower with lower decks -- so easier to roll.


I also own and have paddled an Ilaga, which, for me, has been my dedicated rolling kayak. It is lower volume, narrower, and has lower decks. For me, it's great for rolling and the occasional short paddle (about an hour). It only has two hatches, so less capacity for carrying gear. Since the decks are lower, it's a bit of a squeeze with my size 11 feet, and I have to sit toes-out to fit. For rolling, I don't use the foot pegs, so it's not a big deal.


Both kayaks benefit from being outfitted with a masik (thigh brace), especially for rolling.


If you have more questions or want to discuss further, let's take the conversation to email so we don't fill up other member's Inboxes with New Post notices.

I've searched the interweb, Rebel's website, Kayak Ways and everything else I can find but I don't see anything indicating suitable paddler sizing. Yes, I'm fully aware that one should try before you buy. In the meantime, does anyone have any paddler sizing information to use as a general guideline?


Thanks,


Tony

This is an insane price for one of the best Greenland style kayak money can buy. Turner's modification IMO makes it much better than factory

Price reduced to $2,600

Includes:

+ Reed Chillcheater Fixed Waist Spray Skirt

+ Reed Chillcheater Cockpit Cover


Quoted Text

Rebel TOC


New condition.


$2,600 OR BEST OFFER


Photos at: https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1Jy_R9yy-afO-F3zJYNob5ACoYM2x1yUj?usp=sharing


This kayak was purchased new in 2021 and never paddled.


Includes:

+ Kayak Ways/Turner Wilson custom foam seat

+ Kayak Ways/Turner Wilson custom foam masik

+ Keel Eazy Keel Strip - professionally installed

+ Original Certificate of Authenticity and factory documentation


Located in Colorado Springs, CO, US


Can possibly deliver to a convenient meet-up spot. Let me know where you are, and perhaps we can coordinate delivery.



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Hello Pam,

According to the specs on the Rebel website, this TOC weighs in at 19.5 kg, which converts to 43 lbs. I can't say for certain since I haven't actually weighed this kayak.

Full specs here: https://www.rebelkayaks.com/product/toc/

If you have additional questions, please contact me via email so we don't fill up other member's Inboxes with New Post notices.

Thanks,

Chuck

I will research this model more- I prefer a larger cockpit. Do you know the weight? The upside is I have a tuilik for a small cockpit. Pam

Hi Pam,

Thanks for your interest and inquiry. The Rebel Greenland TOC cockpit is an elongated ocean cockpit. The cockpit rim measures 57 x 40 cm, which converts to 22.4 inches x 15.7 inches. So, you're correct it's not a true, round ocean cockpit.

Rebel also makes the Greenland T, which has a larger keyhole shaped cockpit.

If you have additional questions, please contact via email.

Regards,

Chuck

Hello! Can you tell me the dimensions of the cockpit? It does not look like an ocean cockpit, which I do not want, anyway.

Any chance you could deliver to Fort Collins, CO? My brother could hold it for me until I was able to get it.

thanks! I used to have a Tahe Greenlander but sold it and regret it.

Pam

Reduced asking price -- $2,800

Now includes:

+ Reed Chillcheater spray deck with fixed waist

+ Reed Chillcheater cockpit cover


Quoted Text

Rebel TOC


New condition.


$2,800 OR BEST OFFER

Will consider trades.


Photos at: https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1Jy_R9yy-afO-F3zJYNob5ACoYM2x1yUj?usp=sharing


This kayak was purchased new in 2021 and never paddled.


Includes:

+ Kayak Ways/Turner Wilson custom foam seat

+ Kayak Ways/Turner Wilson custom foam masik

+ Keel Eazy Keel Strip - professionally installed

+ Original Certificate of Authenticity and factory documentation

+ Reed Chillcheater spray deck with fixed waist

+ Reed Chillcheater cockpit cover


Located in Colorado Springs, CO, US


Can possibly deliver the kayak to a convenient meet-up spot. Let me know where you are, and perhaps we can coordinate delivery.

ttt


Quoted Text

Rebel TOC


New condition.


$3,000 OR BEST OFFER

Will consider trades.


Photos at: https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1Jy_R9yy-afO-F3zJYNob5ACoYM2x1yUj?usp=sharing


This kayak was purchased new in 2021 and never paddled.


Includes:

+ Kayak Ways/Turner Wilson custom foam seat

+ Kayak Ways/Turner Wilson custom foam masik

+ Keel Eazy Keel Strip - professionally installed

+ Original Certificate of Authenticity and factory documentation


Located in Colorado Springs, CO, US


We will be traveling this spring and summer and can possibly deliver the kayak to a convenient meet-up spot. Let me know where you are, and perhaps we can coordinate delivery.

Available and ready for paddling season!

Carefully considering all offers. You won't hurt my feelings. ;-)


This beauty needs a new home. Currently gathering dust in my garage.



Quoted Text

Rebel TOC


New condition.


$3,000 OR BEST OFFER

Will consider trades.


Photos at: https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1Jy_R9yy-afO-F3zJYNob5ACoYM2x1yUj?usp=sharing


This kayak was purchased new in 2021 and never paddled.


Includes:

+ Kayak Ways/Turner Wilson custom foam seat

+ Kayak Ways/Turner Wilson custom foam masik

+ Keel Eazy Keel Strip - professionally installed

+ Original Certificate of Authenticity and factory documentation


Located in Colorado Springs, CO, US


We will be traveling this spring and summer and can possibly deliver the kayak to a convenient meet-up spot. Let me know where you are, and perhaps we can coordinate delivery.

Hello David,

Thanks for your interest and inquiry. Right now we're planning to pass by fairly close to you mid summer.

If you're still interested, let's take our conversation to email.

Regards,

Chuck

I'd be interested but I'm located in Michigan. Where will your travels be taking you?

Rebel TOC


New condition.


$3,000 OR BEST OFFER

Will consider trades.


Photos at: https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1Jy_R9yy-afO-F3zJYNob5ACoYM2x1yUj?usp=sharing


This kayak was purchased new in 2021 and never paddled.


Includes:

+ Kayak Ways/Turner Wilson custom foam seat

+ Kayak Ways/Turner Wilson custom foam masik

+ Keel Eazy Keel Strip - professionally installed

+ Original Certificate of Authenticity and factory documentation


Located in Colorado Springs, CO, US


We will be traveling this spring and summer and can possibly deliver the kayak to a convenient meet-up spot. Let me know where you are, and perhaps we can coordinate delivery.

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